The closed loop tuning would help with things like gas mileage, variances in gasoline (even if theyre the same octane), etc. The best way to get the most out of whatever piggyback you want to use is to find out what your local tuner supports or has most experience tuning with. I know Rallitek is a big proprietor of the system.they seem to be the only one that does it. PP6 is about as "easy" as the Emanage.as in it depends on what tune is loaded into it.
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The blue just needs the extra Greddy harness for whatever function you want to add-on to it. The big difference between the Blue and Ultimates are just the number of functions that are available when you first get the unit. Emanage (both types) are piggyback systems. Just too much trouble for what it is.Ĩ9bk a standalone tunes everything, so you don't have to deal with the closed loop/open loop ECU business, at it does all of that by itself, and have extra features as well (like launch control, digital gauge connections, etc.) but they're $$. Others that have emanage with their turbo do that (constantly running rich) or just tune it and reset the car when it learns around the closed loop tune (and subsequently upload the tune again). Of course for F/I, you can just get the biggest fuel pump and biggest injectors you can find so you're running rich all the time and have that margin of safety while at partial throttle, and have the tune stick during open loop.but I don't plan to be at WOT all the time. Right, I'm looking at it from a forced induction point of view, not tuning a relatively stock N/A subby motor. Is the PP6 the least expensive, trouble-free, easy-so-use system or would other systems be better? I learn something everyday.)ģ-Since my car runs way less than desirable in all rpm ranges below WOT, I'd like to tune those ranges too. ġ-If a standalone can only tune the open loop (WOT only?) what advantage would the E-manage Ultimate have over the Blue? (I didn't know standalones only affect the open loop till now.)Ģ-So, does the E-manage work better with MAF systems than the MAP systems? (As a side, on another Board someone posted that '95s were OBDI and '96 on were OBD II. other than that piggy backs, including highly advanced ones like the emanage and emanage ultimate, are only used to tune open loop.I am newer than a newbie at EM so please excuse my questions or posts if they seem ridiculous. you could also change the o2 sensor input (the perfect power can do this) and that would effect closed loop operation. The only way to change the closed loop tune is to change the original programing (re-flash or chip) or get a standalone.
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If you are going to be running different injectors (which I and pretty much anyone turbo kitting the car would have to), you'd lose some of the driveability advantage the piggyback offers over a standalone or even an RRFR w/ knock sensor. other than that piggy backs, including highly advanced ones like the emanage and emanage ultimate, are only used to tune open loop.Well that's what I mean. The cool thing with the emanage is it will alow you to change injectors or AFM and it will recalibrate the signals during closed loop so the car runs like stock. any piggyback is tuned for open loop only. I was going to use the Ultimate for my turbokit but I found out the MAP-based RS guys were having ECU learn-around problems with their Ultimates.they could only tune for open loop, not closed loop (i.e. Is your 95 OBD II? Keep us updated on how that works out.